a very long password that (ideally) is only bound to a single device, requires a second identifier (biometric, PIN, password) and that is phishing resistant.
i refuse to give my phone my thumbprint or do a face unlock. i’m not sure if it’s still collecting a biometric bullshit on my face, but i have not done it myself. I’m a luddite here and i insist on it so no one (especially no one trying to violate the united states 4th amendment) can get into my phone without my permission or hacking into it.
i refuse to give my phone my thumbprint or do a face unlock. i’m not sure if it’s still collecting a biometric bullshit on my face, but i have not done it myself.
Then get a Yubikey. Replace “something you are” with “something you have”. It’s not ideal to have two somethings you have as your two factors, but a password to get into the computer to get to the passkey adds an extra layer that makes me comfortable with it.
I’m a luddite here and i insist on it so no one (especially no one trying to violate the united states 4th amendment) can get into my phone without my permission or hacking into it.
In the context of this discussion, it’s one of two factors. But I agree with you when it’s the only factor.
thus rendering them redundant, because their strength is being bound to a single physical device. if they’re portable, they’re as good as asymmetric key pairs.
Their strength is being half a cryptographic key, not that they’re device bound.
That was a “requirement” that big tech wanted, to force you to be dependent on TPM storage, so you’d be forced to use a Trusted™ device and OS. It was made optional after pushback from basically everyone else.
Password managers support Passkeys now. Bitwarden and KeePassX among others.
As long as I trust that my password manager is secure, and as long as I use a strong master password or (better) have a hardware key to unlock it, it is way more secure than a password, and I can still install Linux without losing my logins.
so passwords (that you can’t memorize) with extra steps
Half a cryptographic key that you can’t easily give to someone over the phone by accident.
a very long password that (ideally) is only bound to a single device, requires a second identifier (biometric, PIN, password) and that is phishing resistant.
i refuse to give my phone my thumbprint or do a face unlock. i’m not sure if it’s still collecting a biometric bullshit on my face, but i have not done it myself. I’m a luddite here and i insist on it so no one (especially no one trying to violate the united states 4th amendment) can get into my phone without my permission or hacking into it.
Then get a Yubikey. Replace “something you are” with “something you have”. It’s not ideal to have two somethings you have as your two factors, but a password to get into the computer to get to the passkey adds an extra layer that makes me comfortable with it.
In the context of this discussion, it’s one of two factors. But I agree with you when it’s the only factor.
Bitwarden let’s you sync your passkeys between devices. And you can also unlock your vault with one stored on a physical security key.
yay vendor lock in. google or meta password manager salivating.
Bitwarden has been working great with me as sits transition to passkeys, even big corporate ones.
But yeah in practice, google and facebook are going to probably dominate because they are the easy + free option.
KeepassXC supports passkeys as well.
i’m assuming most people will use the default, which will probably be google lock in anyway.
thus rendering them redundant, because their strength is being bound to a single physical device. if they’re portable, they’re as good as asymmetric key pairs.
Their strength is being half a cryptographic key, not that they’re device bound.
That was a “requirement” that big tech wanted, to force you to be dependent on TPM storage, so you’d be forced to use a Trusted™ device and OS. It was made optional after pushback from basically everyone else.
Password managers support Passkeys now. Bitwarden and KeePassX among others.
As long as I trust that my password manager is secure, and as long as I use a strong master password or (better) have a hardware key to unlock it, it is way more secure than a password, and I can still install Linux without losing my logins.
Ooh-la-la, someone’s gonna get laid in college.
Edit: This is a joking reference from a Rick and Morty episode (S02E06).
i don’t get what this has to do with college, or getting laid at all but sure.
Oh, I’m sorry. It’s a reference to a Rick and Morty episode. I thought that’s what you were referring to.
ha, the episode where they have a mini universe powering their car.