All the more reason for me not to purchase it.
After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.
Maybe if it was 349 or 399… but 499 is wild
That’s not even the biggest issue for me. The $80 games that never get discounted will cost a lot more than that pretty quickly. Plus I know they push their subscription service too.
As a PC gamer, fuck that. I’ll play cheap better games on my free operating system that I actually control on my hardware that I can repair and replace easily. Nintendo games interest me, but not nearly at the price they’re asking for with what they’re offering.
Also on PC you don’t need to pay a premium for mobile device parts if you have no need for them.
Just yesterday I spent 3 hours playing MK8D on my PC. Cozy on my bed and a controller + a remote keyboard.
Felt like the real deal.Edit: Why the downvotes? Is emulation so frowned upon here?
I hope you’re right. Nintendo has turned into a bunch of cocky assholes and they need to be taught a hard lesson. I hope the Switch 2 flops so hard, costing them so much that they don’t have any spare money left to continue suing the Palworld devs. They need to be put in their place.
The guy doing the teardown recommended you wait until a third party company makes a drift proof module to replace the same as last version joystick decoders
I really appreciate iFixit and how they help bring the discussion of repairability to the forefront.
i was looking at them originally to fix my pixel 5a phone, than realize it wasnt worth the cost. not because ifixit, but because of the unreliability of the 5a at the time, i changed to a non-google phone this year.
Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.
Blow a whole city? That’s dedication
There is nobody with more dedication than IP lawyers and Nintendo.
I mean yeah, I wouldn’t expect otherwise. Nobody hates their fans more than Nintendo does.
Ironic because apparently the fan is actually pretty easily replaceable.
Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.
Nintendo has been the Apple of the video game world since the N64.
NES actually, a good number of PC games got made because folks didn’t want to deal with Nintendo and Sega arguably got into the market cause Nintendo was too strict in their publishing policy. That last bit is ironic given the AI slop and hentai on their online store, nothing against the hentai I just think it’s funny.
Even Apple makes more repairable hardware.
Yeah once sued. They weren’t going to offer it up otherwise, I suspect something similar is going to have to happen to Nintendo.
Not surprised, given it’s Nintendo. My Switch Lite has seen very little use since I got my Steam Deck, tho.
Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn’t work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn’t responsive. 🙄
Spoiler alert: it’s not. Same joysticks as last time.
Are you fucking kidding? They didn’t switch to Hall effect?
Still has an LCD panel, and still has regular sticks. I guess saving 0.10$ per unit adds up
Idiots will buy it no matter what, may as well use the cheap stuff.
It’s not, and the joycons are even HARDER to repair due to a piece of plastic glued over a screw on the inside…
Thanks to 3d printing I have litres of isopropyl. What sucks is you probably want to replace the glue since it’s there to protect against liquids, and Nintendo don’t care to provide a seal kit
You also need to remove stickers to get at the screws
Also you need a security screwdriver (three blade) for those screws
There are no replacement stickers, we wait for iFixit to provide guidance on adhesives
Congrats it’s worse! Harder to get to :)
Not a problem. I wasn’t gonna buy one amyways.
dint buy the original switch, considered how they kept trying to keep ahead people tried to homebrew it, also because the lack of quality games. also all the bloatware they adding as a requirement to use some of thier services.
I will, used in a few years. Assuming emulation isn’t rapidly done again.
Great video. That’s a disappointing outcome though.
It was interesting to hear though that Nintendo hasn’t made any replacement parts available for the original switch, despite the fact that New York State apparently requires this by law.
I wonder if they’ll be forced to comply with that at some point. There are probably other jurisdictions that require this or that will require this soon. I’d love to see some pressure applied to companies that don’t make replacement parts available.
At this point I trust in the EU to force Nintendo to play the right-to-repair game.
Yeah, the EU has shown they’re serious when it comes to consumer protections. It’s great to see!
For example, coming into effect in 12 days, on the 20th of June, for smartphones and tablets:
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Durability: Devices should be resistant to accidental drops and protected against dust and water.
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Battery longevity: Batteries must endure at least 800 full charge and discharge cycles while retaining at least 80% of their original capacity.
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Repairability: Manufacturers must make critical spare parts available within 5 to 10 working days, and continue offering them for 7 years after the product is no longer sold in the EU.
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Software support: Devices must receive operating system upgrades for at least 5 years from the end-of-sale date.
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Repair access: Professional repairers must have non-discriminatory access to any required software or firmware.
They will also have to include a sticker on packaging that has standardised information on it concerning energy efficiency, battery life, repeated drop test results, battery endurance in charging cycles, repairability score, and water/dust protection rating:
Does that go into effect for all devices on sale, or only for devices released after that date? Also, that software support section is great. That basically means all phones need atleast 6 years of support
Only new devices released after June 20th.
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Not that Nintendo can’t just withdraw from regions that have some level of consumer protections.
The EU is way too big to just withdraw from
What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.
The only way to legally play those is on the switch.
Yes, even non children play those games.
You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.
It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
In a lot of place it is illegal to circumvent technical protection measures, which is technically required for almost anything starting from NES era. Making it impossible to “legally” rip your own games (yes, even in places where there IS a tax to allow private copy of content you bought). So the only way you can do that is by downloading it, where there is no “legal” way to distribute it in the first place, so “legally” you can’t download it either.
I’m not defending the practice, I’m saying that if you’re going the “legal” defense, you’re going to have a bad time if it gets attention. Fortunately, suing every single gamer on earth is not an attractive prospect.
In those place it’s usually sharing which is illegal, downloading is fine as long as you already own the media.
And where would you download from, that is seen as legal sharing of someone else’s IP?
The closest you could get is by locating the ROM file in some PC remakes, assuming there’s no “protection” on them.
Again, playing around the “legal” way to do things. In reality, it’s different.
Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.
Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it’s a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it’s 100% of the time. People want a “I turn it on, I start a game”, not a “I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes”.
with consoles, it’s 100% of the time
Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole “consoles are 100%!” idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.
People buying the console for the games that are on that console, not generations before, are 100% fine.
Beside, it’s not something you have to fiddle with to get it work. Either a patch come, or you’re on your own.
not generations before
If by “Generations” you mean the literal previous generation that was advertised as backwards compatible and where many of the games won’t receive specific patches precisely because running natively and better was one of the key features of the new console… Sure, I guess.
I have children, like their first party titles, and dislike piracy. I also have a PC handheld that gets more use than the Switch, and I like both.
and dislike piracy.
Because you cant just… You know, Fucking Rip the game from The cardridge?
I can’t, because I don’t have the 1st gen or whatever with the faulty firmware. Maybe there’s a new exploit, idk.
I’d be fine downloading a digital copy if I own the cartridge, I’m just too lazy to actually find a suitable emulator and just play on the Switch. My kids like to watch me anyway, so the TV is usually a better option, hence the Switch.
We take it on trips as well, so it’s pretty nice. I bring my Steam Deck as well, but that’s for me, not my kids.
Battery life and weight. That’s what keeps me from getting a pc handheld. Although the switch 2 is so big I don’t know if that holds true anymore
Switch 2 battery life also isn’t fantastic.
There are PC handhelds that do old emulated games pretty well with good battery life. Sorta like a modern version of a DS or PSP.
The steam deck has great battery life (better than my original switch by a lot) unless you’re playing something super heavy, and it’s so much more comfortable to hold that the bit of extra weight isn’t that big a deal. I don’t think I’ve touched my switch since I got a deck
2 hour battery time
The switch 2 would have better battery life it was powered by the life force of a mayfly.
From my friend, the main advantage the switch have is the UI for games is being design for handheld from the get go, so big, readable font and icon is by default already there and is made to fit. PC game tend to made for either a 24inch or so monitor or big tv for couch gaming, games that doesn’t have UI accessibility option on a handheld PC is unplayable for a lot of people.
Also that damn controller can be split so coop is so accessible. Not to mention that first party games.
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Friends with Switchs to play Smash Bros and Mario Party. Occasional Nintendo game but everything else PC. It’s lighter than almost every PC handheld. The Ayaneo Air 1S is lighter but has a 5.5" display
I have a PC handheld but they’re all too heavy in my opinion. The holy grail to me is a Steam Deck that’s about the same weight as a Switch 2 or lighter. 7" display
I wonder if Nintendo will ever embrace repairability like some phone companies have
I guess there’s more competition in phones than in devices that can run Mario Cart
If you consider how hostile they are with everything else, I highly doubt it. Nintendo never again
Or Mortal Combat.
This was inevitable. Everybody who was ever going to buy a Switch has already bought one. How else are they going to make more money? Keep increasing prices and keep cutting costs (enshittification essentially). These two will be the centre of all big business for the coming years.
Haha when they did that blog post to change the switch from 8/10 to 4/10 saying they don’t normally do that but wanted to make sure you could compare the 2 properly against the original, I thought they were making space for the 2 to be above the original, not that they were going to mark it as worse 😅
the Switch 2 is a waste of money.
I thought Nintendo devices were built like tanks, nes, snes, all old consoles are still playable. How long did the new Nintendo devices like switch last? I think the screen and battery are the main limit of devices life.
Lol nah, they might be generally well designed, but they’ve been making it all in China (until now for tariff bypass) for decades now, so you don’t get the Japanese OEM quality shine you usually get out of other electronics.
Most of the repair will be for damaged consoles. Switch 1 battery lasted pretty well considering most phone batteries begin to deteriorate around 4 years.
Aside from that though, I expect the joycon drift issue to be unfixed which will be the real issue, especially as warranties expire.
