Excellent, I will be sure not to use this, like all Google shit.
In a few years you won’t be able to anyway
I’m just reaching the end game faster then.
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All the time I spent trying to get rid of gemini just to now download this. Am I stupid?
I wouldn’t think so - it depends on your priorities.
The open source and offline nature of this without the pretenses of “Hey, we’re gonna use every query you give as a data point to shove more products down your face” seems very appealing over Gemini. There’s also that Gemini is constantly being shoved in our faces and preinstalled, whereas this is a completely optional download.
god i can’t wait for the ai bubble to pop
Duck.ai doesn’t data mine, and has o3 mini which I have found to be very good. Its got some extra functionality like lines to break up text.
Yeah duck is all over bothered with since it came out since you don’t even need to login to use it.
I’ve been using duck.ai recently myself and quite like it. My only complaint with it is that the chats have a length limit, so if you’re working on complex projects you can run into those limits pretty quick. I use it for worldbuilding for a novel I’m working on and I have to use chatgpt for thematic stuff because it has a better memory, but otherwise it’s great for quick/small things.
Nice! I saw Mozilla also added an ai chat in the browser recently (not in the phone version that I have seen tho).
It is too bad duck.ai only runs the small models. Gpt4o-mini is not very good, it can be very inaccurate and very inconsistent :( I would like to see the 4.1-mini instead, faster and better and got function calling, so it can do web searches for example. O3 can’t so it can only know what it knows until 2023.
But thanks for the information I will be looking out for when 4.1 is added!
Why would I use this over Ollama?
Ollama can’t run on Android
That’s fair, but I think I’d rather self host an Ollama server and connect to it with an Android client in that case. Much better performance.
Yes, that’s my setup. But this will be useful for cases where internet connection is not reliable
How is Ollama compared to GPT models? I used the paid tier for work and I’m curious how this stacks up.
It’s decent, with the deepseek model anyway. It’s not as fast and has a lower parameter count though. You might just need to try it and see if it fits your needs or not.
You can use it in termux
Has this actually been done? If so, I assume it would only be able to use the CPU
Yeah I have it in termux. Ollama is in the package repos for termux. The speed it generates does feel like cpu speed but idk
Is there any useful model you can run on a phone?
Llama.cpp (on which ollama runs on) can. And many chat programs for phones can use it.
Try PocketPal instead
There is already GPT4All.
Convenient graphical interface, any model you like (for Llama fans - of course it’s there), fully local, easy to opt in or out of data collection, and no fuss to install - it’s just a Linux/Windows/MacOS app.
For Linux folks, it is also available as flatpak for your convenience.
So it doesnt require internet access at all? I would only use these on a disconnected part of my network.
Yes, it works perfectly well without Internet. Tried it both on physically disconnected PC and laptop in airplane mode.
Alibaba also provides an OpenSource App, it even has support for their multimodal voice chat Model qwen2.5 omni: https://github.com/alibaba/MNN
You never heard of ollama or docker model runner?
Android and iOS.
Wonder what this has over its competitors, I hesitate to think they released this for fun though
Google hosting their shit on Microsofts servers and telling you to sideload and not using their own software distribution method for their own OS is kind of crazy if you think about it
Is the chat uncensored?
Censoring is model dependent so you can select one of the models without the guardrails.
Enclave on iOS does the trick for the rare times i need a local LLM
Didn’t know about this. Checking it out now, thanks!
