You know, this is some shit that I expect when dealing with some shady asshole on ebay, but LMG?
Bro… Are you ok?
I always wondered if Linus was actually a slimy POS, but this Billet Labs situation has cemented it for me. If you haven’t watched the Gamers Nexus followup video, definitely watch it.
Must nice to have all that time to care about YouTuber drama
Look, I can’t say that I don’t understand the sentiment, but people calling YouTubers out on their bullshit is strictly better than ‘Nobody ever cares about anything outside of their 60 hour a week jobs that they work to pay for an overinflated cost of living in this hypercapitalist dystopia hellscape that they don’t have the emotional capacity to care about because of said 60 hour a week jobs.’
I want to hear about this because it means somebody still cares, somebody is still paying attention to the injustice, however trivial or removed from daily life it is.
1: Maybe you could maybe like not have an attitude towards people doing what they want with their free time? People are allowed to enjoy different things from you and if you don’t like it why comment at all? Just move along. 2: This isn’t just youtube drama, this is a very large company with a lot of pull hurting other smaller up and coming companies, lying, being shady, and it should be called out. This company influences decisions and needs to be held accountable for theft at this point as well.
Yeah, that’s not what this is. I’m relatively uninvolved, but after going through a few videos on this, they’re calling out ltt and lmg because they’re actively harming a small start-up and fairly directly misinforming consumers. Now that they’re branding themselves as professional tech reviewers instead of entertainers, the bar is a lot higher and it seems that they are NOT clearing it.
I think the parent commenter just wants to feel like they’re better than you.
Honestly I could care less if it was just YouTuber drama. The reason I care and the reason it makes me so angry is because Billet labs is just a couple of guys trying to make a product. They aren’t some big company or anything like that, it’s just a couple guys working on a passion project. But then Mr Big money YouTube star does literally everything wrong, doesn’t even bother to use the product properly, and proceeds to take a giant dump all over Billet labs.
Yeah, I’m going to be a little pissed off about that. Not because I care about some whiny bitch on YouTube but because I feel for the poor guys who got dragged through the mud and our potentially going to take a massive hit in their business once they finalize their product.
I am not defending LTT. They are innthe wrong.
But they sent a unfinished product to one of the most influencial tech youtubers, say that a couple of times and you realize it was naive.
There is many people working on prototypes right now that we do not know off. Because they are prototypes, not products. They played and got burnt. Again, LTT did wrong with them still.You literally are defending LTT. None of what you said makes sense. So what if it’s a prototype? They were given instructions and other information and either due to negligence or complete disregard, they did everything wrong, gave an misinformed bad review, then gave the product away after saying they would be returning it. They have further excused themselves of wrong doing by saying it was for charity and given away at an auction and they didn’t sell it. They have refused responsibility and growth at every step of the way. This is also a pattern of behavior and is not just this one instance.
LTT have made tons of videos with prototype CPUs, GPUs, and preproduction versions of pretty much any other hardware one can imagine. I don’t think it’s naive to send such a reviewer that kind of hardware.
What LTT has done though in this case, with the making of the video, misplacing the GPU, selling the prototype, then the attempts at coverup and shifting blame… is beyond pathetic.
With how bad it is to send an unfinished product to a reviewer, the reviewer could at the very least use the right equipment to fairly review it. If it’s such a terrible idea it surely doesn’t need the additional help of rushed incompetence to highlight any flaws in the product.
We get it, you don’t know who LTT is or their relevance. You can ask directly if you want to learn.
It’s not just “YouTuber drama” though; LTT have positioned themselves as The Grand Knowledge on all things tech, so a good number of people turn to them for recommendations. And their recommendations are questionable.
Grand knowledge? I’ve never seen a single one of their videos that told me anything I didn’t already know about a tech item.
Mostly they make super edgelord cringe thumbnails and generally just have an idiots approach to the work they do by breaking things (the famous iMac Pro incident) or approaching things with the grace of a baby elephant.
He’s the computer guy for the 14 year old. It’s wild that the internet looks to them for anything other than shitty low effort product reviews and yammering on about whatever to fill up podcasts.
Wait they sent a 3090 too? Why Linus tried it with a different GPU then?
Because they’re a disorganized clusterfuck and he couldn’t be bothered to slightly delay filming to get the proper card. Because for whatever reason they’ve decided they must churn out content at such a high pace that everything they do is like this now.
Honestly the only videos from the last year where I remember things not being totally jank were videos with Emily, but she’s barely been in anything since coming out a few months ago.
The reason they do shady atuff to avoid delays so they can churn out content at such a high pace is money.
Because he’s a fucking cunt. Always has been. No screwdriver on the face of the earth is worth $70 and no backpack is worth $250, but if it was it should have a goddamn warranty.
There’s a video of them reviewing email clients of all things and they shit on outlook for companies… Anyone who’s ever used outlook vs Gmail in a corporate environment knows that outlook destroys the competition because rules > tags.
Nothing they do is rooted in reality.
Hoodies should not be $100 unless they also come with a hooker who gives great head.
Fuck LTT.
To be fair, I agree with you, however I do have the screwdriver. I am a glazer and my screwdrivers get tortured to death. This screwdriver is honestly the best one I have ever owned. They did an excellent job and it absolutely is worth 70 bucks. I think they deserve some props for this, it’s very clear that they put a lot of work into it.
I do have to wonder though, they wanted to have 12 bits in the holder, but the holding area wasn’t large enough. Normal screwdriver bits are 40mm, The shorties that they use are 20mm… They designed the fucking handle… Just make it 40mm longer and then you can use regular size bits. I don’t understand why apparently literally no one thought of this.
Regardless, it is an absolutely fantastic product and it deserves phrase.
That said, fuck LTT.
Wont the longer bits fit but just stick a bit further out in the socket?
I believe they don’t fit in the built in tip holder.
They do fit, but you can only put half as many normal sized bits in there. I’m fine with that personally, making the whole thing bigger would negatively affect ergonomics.
No screwdriver on the face of the earth is worth $70 and no backpack is worth $250
I don’t own either of these products from them, but let me tell you, that is wrong.
I own a 200€ backpack from Samsonite and it fucking rocks, it’s a different league from Amazon crap.
Also, sports gear exists, including backpacks.lol yeah my camera bag is over $300. A good camera hiking bag is most definitely worth the money.
Ackshually, professional grade tools are very expensive and they’re of different quality than what you get at Home Depot. Materials, thicknesses, manufacturing tolerances are different and more expensive. As a result they last longer, sometimes drastically. The MegaPro screwdriver LTT got theirs influenced by is around the same price as the LTT one.
Still fuck LTT.
Because they lost the GPU, I kid you not.
The logistics team is like four people and they have a gigantic warehouse of mess. They sometimes show it in videos, I’m surprised they can find anything.
The thing I don’t get about them is they keep going on about how they want to do all this professional grade testing. Ok cool, but that requires careful planning, and that does not go long well with their 10 million videos a day at any and all costs policy that they are currently pursuing.
The company I work at has an almost identical type of chaos and a good chunk of colleagues going in, taking something and not informing it was taken until we do inventory and have 30k of stock missing in some corner someone forgot to count.
We are currently in the process of doing it but we are only ~15 heads, 6 of which are currently not on holiday, we as 1st/2nd level helpdesk need to support our customers and it’s just a mess.
Now multiply that by the many employees has and how fast it needs to process it and I am kinda surprised how they havent folded yet in that regard alone.
People seem to constantly underestimate how important logistics and inventory tracking really is
I work in the freight industry and I’m constantly finding shit that isn’t labeled properly, packaged properly, or even put on the correct trailer. And that’s just me as one dude on a loading dock with about 150 doors and about 40 people buzzing around on forklifts.
Literally last month I found half a dozen pallets ranging in cost from $1000 - $75000 that had been pushed deep into a storage area that freight isn’t supposed to be near and had been misplaced over a year prior.
The only reason I found them was because I was investigating trying to find a pallet worth almost $200,000 that someone had misplaced the day before. It was in that area as well.
My guy, you deserve some kind of bonus!
It’s weird how people don’t care about things… I was asked to make a report of open accounts from the database for the sales team, which I did.
They didn’t ask me to filter the data, so I made them a 2nd report, open accounts who had not done business with us year to date, had no problems with payment history, and had open lines of credit.
Over a million dollars in open credit from good customers just… you know… sitting there.
Maybe I came to the channel late, after it’s prime, but I have never seen the value of LTT & affiliates.
The review videos have seemed sub par when cross checking against multiple reviewers.
The entertainment videos felt cringey even when they covered a subject I was interested in (PlayStation dev kits, other obscure tech)
It was a quick unsubscribe when I felt my time was getting wasted.
Oh and it seems this is not all of it, an ex-employee came out on twitter about sexual harassment, extremely bad work conditions and so much more.
The timing of it is weird to say at least but there’s a lot.The fact that these allegations come in quick succession is rather logical, I’d say. It’s much harder to come out against someone who is a generally beloved public figure, so when the allegations finally start, many people see their chance to have their voice be taken seriously.
It’s been repeatedly proven that large companies get a impenetrable wall of armour based on fear of speaking out due to fear of retribution or breaking an important connection. Once that wall is broken it allows grievances to finally pass though.
But yet… Emily (Formerly Anthony) came out as trans, and… Everyone was cool with it and endorsed it. So… What’s actually true?
We need more maturation of these stories.
Please don’t deadname trans people, folks can figure out from context if you just say “Emily from LTT came out as trans”.
I can’t expect everyone to know who that is. Especially here where people tend to avoid Twitter which was their platform of choice to reveal to the wider internet. And Emily hasn’t been on any LTT videos since transitioning, so I don’t exactly know how people would get context without what I said.
I don’t mean to stir up anything, this is entirely respectful (remove this if it isn’t, no worries), but it is useful for someone who knew who someone named “Anthony” was, despite the fact that they don’t exist anymore. I guess it doesn’t matter, but I immediately was able to understand who they were talking about since I didn’t know she had transitioned. Is there a better way to approach providing this context?
There’s a million different ways, most trans people don’t immediately change their last name so you can use that. Or you can refer to something that Emily did to provide context. I’m sure if you stop and think about it, you can figure out a few more ways too.
At the end of the day it’s not about making it easier for you to understand what’s going on at the expense of disrespecting her. She’s asking for you to use her name, so stop calling her something else.
Mate, you should never think an online influencer/store is on your side. They’re not.
Not even Steve from Gamer’s Nexus is your friend.
Can you still practice safe exchange with them? Yes, just be informed of your rights.
Edit/addition: Didn’t check the link. Thought this was about the last drama.
This addresses new issues, and it’s important to solve those issues.
I feel like when Linus was still CEO, he made too many choices too fast, and that’s caused the situation LMG is in now.
They have to rush content to get bills paid in time.
An extremely impulsive CEO is never good.
At least with Steve I get the general impression he genuinely cares about people and what he does. He also seems like a genuinely nice person
Whereas for Linus, it has felt for a while that he is basically just a business person who does this because it’s profitable (I think he used to care though).
You can care about people as a proxy of doing PR over the thing you like to do.
Not saying he’s an asshole or anything; people just need to stop having these weird as fuck personal relationships with online personalities whom they don’t even actually know.
But yeah, Linus used to care more, but it was years ago when he started saying he’ll stop being CEO soon. Started piling up from back then to where it is now.
Tl;dr: frustrations, inability to do the thing he wanted, high commercial pressure, family, impulsiveness (New houses, new cars, new projects while there were multiple still in progress or not even started), etc. Lost sight of what he was doing, and what he wanted.
Maybe that’ll slowly improve with new CEO, and the projects he started finishing.
I’ve always held the opinion that any celebrity or influencer or whatever is absolutely fucked up in some way. You just have to hope they’re fucked in some way that is relatively harmless
Imma go ask Steve if he wants to be my friend.
I’ve been seeing this news article circling around the internet all day, and I have yet to see anyone mention what the monoblock actually is. It’s starting to feel like some kind of mysterious primal artifact, like maybe the master computer from which all flavors of Linux originated.
It is a water cooling block designed for a specific graphics card. It is a new type of design and Billet Labs sent their best prototype (as in, the only one they had) to LMG for review. Linus proceeded to strap it to a video card where it didn’t fit, so bad that there was a 1mm gap (which might as well be a million miles when you’re talking about cooling). Of course the performance sucked due to it being strapped to a card it wasn’t designed to fit, linus trashed the block and the company.
And here’s the part that just fucks me off. Billet Labs SENT THEM THE CORRECT CARD WITH THE BLOCK! There is literally no valid excuse for putting it on the wrong card, Billet Labs sent them the correct one!!!
And the thing that a lot of people aren’t understanding is the Billet Labs is not some large corporation, it is two guys putting hard work into a product. Unless I’m mistaken, they have regular ass jobs. People talking about them being able to sue… With what imaginary money? LMG is a 100,000,000 dollar company (at least). Their sloppy, misinformed, shitty, shameful, video basically has the power to cut them off at the knees when they did absolutely nothing wrong.
There is so much more to this, but whatever. Linus is a garbage person. I feel as though Luke is a decent guy but afraid to give Linus the reality check that he desperately needs.
Anyway, the first sentence answered your question I think. I rambled and ranted.
I feel as though Luke is a decent guy but afraid to give Linus the reality check that he desperately needs.
I honestly don’t understand why Luke puts up with him. I’d have left years ago. Although I have never been friends with the pompous tit to begin with.
Probably because it’s the best paying job he can ever get. What’s he gonna do when he leaves? Which other podcast/YouTube channel can he work for that’s in the Greater Vancouver Area? If he leaves his live would get upended, he either needs to move or switch careers and in both cases probably takes a salary cut. This is how shitty bosses like Linus retain employees. Just look at other shitty companies where employees don’t have transferable skills that only apply to one very specific industry, like for example the gaming industry. Employees don’t leave even when the bosses behave terribly, like Riot Games
Okay, would we be even talking about Billet Labs after a month if they didn’t fuck up this video and selling off the prototype? This situation has been probably the best case scenario for them. This isn’t to absolve LMG’s part in losing the prototype and selling it off but if it worked as intended we wouldn’t be talking about a 900+ waterblock for a gpu right now. It would be a long forgotten video because most consumers don’t give a shit about boutique water cooling solutions, wow what a filler ltt episode. There is a market for it but and I continue to say this what super water cooling enthusiast is going to follow the words of local idiot/“funny” youtube man who does stupid watercooling projects in the dumbest ways possible.
if it worked as intended we wouldn’t be talking about a 900+ waterblock for a gpu right now.
It does work as intended. LMG fucked up once again by using the wrong card. Billet Labs sent them a compatible card and LMG lost it.
You missing the point I was making. I’m saying if LTT shot the video right and used a 3090 TI, we wouldn’t be talking about this it would be a pointless video that most people wouldn’t have given a shit about. It was 100% a filler episode. They really should have done it on a 3090 TI but holy shit this drama about this has been going on for a fucking month now only just rekindled with the GN news.
Sure, we wouldn’t be talking about this. But also Billet Labs wouldn’t have lost their only prototype device. It’s not like they can turn this attention into new customers when they don’t have a product to sell.
That block is the internet, Jen. It’s incredibly important that you protect it or the elders will be irate
I saw the video on it. It is an extremely overbuilt water cooling system that LTT completely fucked the review on. I don’t really know if the cooler was any good since the testing was far from complete.
It’s an expensive novelty item and completely useless for practical purposes as much cheaper blocks can perform the same task just as well. It’s like that one time when LTT build an Xbox controller out of gold, nice bling-bling, but it doesn’t make your gaming any better.
Damn this is really sad to see for the longest time LMG was one of the few companies I actually liked and trusted
The channel was much better when they were in the house and the backups were stored on a toilet.
Ah I remember the good old days.
I’m not really sure how this situation makes linus a “slimey piece of shit”. Incompetent, maybe. Bad at management, sure. Linus probably had no hand in any part until the part where he was told they fucked up. I don’t think there was malice in any part of the exchange, just incompetence.
I find his on-air comments on the prototype that he literally was unwilling to test on the card it was designed for pretty slimy. But if that’s not enough for you, how about the way Madison Suop was treated?
