You could make an ATX form factor ARM or RISC-V machine with a lot of processing power and run Linux on it, but who would buy it and for what? That question is why no one makes such a thing.

The same people who buy ATX form factor x86? The only thing making these platforms different is software support, which is getting better for RISC-V everyday. You wouldn’t buy a RISC-V computer today for high performance gaming or scientific computing, but it definitely works as a general purpose machine (web browsing, office apps, watching videos, etc.) This year shouldn’t see much progress in hardware since RVA23 just came out (maybe some RVA22 + V), but you can expect some nice things to come out 2026-2027 since now you have all you need to build a competent RISC-V CPU.

You are complaining about the photo monitoring functionality, which happens 100% on device. You can confirm this very easily by monitoring the app’s network activity when you receive an image. Android System SafetyCore does a lot more things than photo monitoring, one of which is providing emergency location data (ELS). This is required by law in the EU, India, and the USA.

Is there even an inkling of a plan to go from “dev kit” to “widely available consumer product?”

It’s not a dev kit, it’s meant to be a regular PC with upgradable storage, RAM, and PCIe slot for $120. Milk-V and other RISC-V companies already have widely available consumer products (Milk-V Mars, Banana Pi, etc.), they’re just usually SBCs because that’s what’s easiest to produce and RISC-V is early in development. Remember that the first standard with Vector instructions just came out a few months ago (RVA23), and there’s no point in trying to seriously compete with X86/ARM PCs until you have that.

Even a lot of x86 devices are going to the soldered everything approach.

That right there tells you this is not a RISC-V/ARM problem. It’s just that everyone knows on-SOC memory performs better than DIMM, and manufacturers are starting to offer these to compete with Apple M chips.

The app doesn’t connect send the imagine to the internet, so it’s not that big of a deal. I guess that could change in the future though.

https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-with-sg2380-a-revolutionary-risc-v-desktop-experience/780/122

Milk-V Oasis Mini ITX board was going to have replaceable RAM, M.2 slot for SSD, and 4x SATA slots. The only reason it didn’t release was because of Sophgo sanctions (They make the SG2380 which was the Oasis was based on)

You can run an imitation of the DeepSeek R1 model, but not the actual one unless you literally buy a dozen of whatever NVIDIA’s top GPU is at the moment.

It used to be double that, so I can see why people see it as a bad thing. But I also don’t think 7.1B profits qualifies as “poor financial results”, even if it used to be higher.

I guess we just found out. https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3

Adding republicans to the title would get less clicks though.

Torvald and many others aren’t American, not subject to it, and publicly stated that they weren’t forced to do it.

This is my last response to you because you just keep saying things that are false while calling me the liar. Linus is an American citizen, and even if he wasn’t, the Linux Foundation is an American organisation.

You’re claiming, hyperbolically might I add, that you know whats going on with Torvald and the foundation better than those people themselves. And still showing no actual proof or causation. How can anyone conclude anything other than you are gaslighting and being misleading? It’s Mega level bullshit conspiracy theories.

Literally linked the USA sanctions that apply to this case, but ok.

Saying that I’m gaslighting without even bothering to check the facts is a very interesting approach. USA sanctions on Russia regarding software and IT services went into effect on September, and all parties had 90 days to comply or be sanctioned as well. If he really did it only because he wanted to, why not do it as soon as the Russian invasion started? Why not do it as soon as the sanctions were announced (June)? Not kicking all employees from sanctioned companies means the Linux Foundation is sanctioned as well.

It is not a mischaracterization though. Open source projects can be forced to stop accepting contributions from employees of sanctioned companies, which would include Tencent employees if sanctioned. Anyways, Tencent is not being sanctioned here, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

Also, Linus was definitely forced to kick the Russian maintainers out by USA sanctions.

Why is he a threat to the power of billionaires?

You are allowed to suggest sentencing. This isn’t preferential treatment to Google. Of course, the judge doesn’t have to listen to anybody’s suggestions, but you are definitely allowed to make them.

Manganese dioxide is used to decompose ozone. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1001074222005083

But what does that actually mean? When he actually went through the propper channels for his position? Department of Defense is a VERY wide organisation, and allegedly he did just that.

It means exactly that. File a complaint with the DOD or IC IG’s office.

Claiming he us not a whistleblower, because a VERY specific procedure needs to be followed is just a legal cop out. It’s an ambiguous law that can be used to burry shit indefinitely, and bent to be applied as they wish if people go public.

Here you are saying the same wrong information for the third time. He does not qualify as a whistleblower because be publicly leaked classified information, there’s nothing ambiguous about that.

Snowden: I raised NSA concerns internally over 10 times…

…Snowden said. “The NSA has records. They have copies of emails right now to their Office of General Counsel, to their oversight and compliance folks, from me raising concerns about the NSA’s interpretations of its legal authorities.”

Right. He was able to copy millions of classified documents but forgot to get copies of the same emails that prove he raised concerns through the proper channels. This is the only email that there’s record of, and it was not even submitted by Snowden, but by the NSA.

you are a corporatist that is just salty that your favorite MIC corporation got outed for breaking federal law

Provides nothing to the discussion but an insane reach (I already said I agree with what Snowden did) and an insult.

Manning didn’t break the law and still served an illegal sentence, so I will give Snowden and Asange the benefit of the doubt.

Here you are saying incorrect information again. I repeat, under the US law, leaking classified information to the public is not considered whistleblowing. Manning broke the law.

I’m sick and tired of US propaganda, much less the international versions.

I’m tired of all propaganda, including pro and anti-US propaganda. The US has enough issues as it is and there are enough reasons to condemn the current system. Making things up and defending criminal activities doesn’t help anybody.

Trump stole far more classified documents and that is just fine according to the law

Trump did not publicly leak any classified documents, he simply took them with him. It’s still illegal and was prosecuted for it, but this is not comparable to Manning or Snowden. By the way, Biden did the same thing.

He did not try those avenues, as there would be a record of it.

https://irp.fas.org/congress/2016_rpt/hpsci-snowden.pdf

Oh course, now you will say they are lying and they’re hiding the fact that he went through the proper channels.

When it comes to government transparency? Yes, undoubtedly.

Yes, that’s why there are avenues for whistleblowers. Publicly sharing classified information is not one of them.

The criminals are those in government, but they own the system and will never go after themselves.

What’s the point of this statement? So because we can’t prosecute some criminals we shouldn’t prosecute anybody?

As a veteran, and former Captain, of the USN, yes.

Yeah I’m sure you believe that. How many documents did you leak? You obviously didn’t use your security clearance to leak classified documents, which makes you a hypocrite. “Do as I say, not as I do”. Also, being a former captain doesn’t really make your opinion more valuable than anybody else’s.

Provided that they fall under the protections for whistleblowers, which both Edward Snowden, and Chelsea Manning fell into rather neatly, according to US federal laws.

Then you should know that publicly revealing classified information is not considered whistleblowing under the law. So I guess that changes your “Yes” to a “No”, since it was a “Yes” provided the statement that followed.

Illegal orders are illegal. Even the UCMJ agrees with that stance.

It looks like you’re not well informed on the subject. Snowden didn’t just say bad things were happening and that the US was spying on citizens (which would’ve still been illegal anyways). He stole 1.5 million classified documents, although he says that he hasn’t shared them.

The truth is that whether you like it or not, Snowden is a criminal who knew what he was doing.