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  • You claimed that I was uploading and batch-processing images on the developers’ infrastructure. I tried to tell you it’s not true, because all of those features still work without internet. Load photopea.com, disconnect your internet - tadaa, you can still “upload” images, crop them, save them, draw on them…

    I must be a magician if I can connect to the developers’ machine without any connection at all. There is only one person in this thread who cannot understand how basic technology works. And it’s not me.

    My point is: Why would I pay a subscription for that “service”? A service that barely uses any resources, except the ~1MB Javascript file and a few image assets that are delivered via the web? A web server hosting a few megabytes of data does not warrant 8€ per month per user. If people believe I am an entitled bitch for thinking that way, they can do so. But it will not change my opinion.


  • Was it the fact that Photopea isn’t FOSS?

    That definitely plays into it, but the major point for me is that it’s an alternative to Photoshop, which it literally tries to mimick as best as you can in a browser, down to the same keyboard shortcuts Photoshop uses.

    Most people here would probably agree that Adobe is a very greedy company. So when there’s an alternative to their software that works fine for many years and then gets turned into a subscription model while the author actively fights uBlock, it just feels…wrong. It’s just the same playbook, but with a slightly lower cost.

    I also think it’s very hypocritical to accuse me of freeloading from Photopea, because that project uses other open-source libraries under the hood. Did anyone ask the developer if he financially supported the projects that he is profiting off? He doesn’t even mention them on the website (or if he does, it’s not easy to find), but you can see them when you deobfuscate the Javascript blob.

    If someone criticizes me for using this project ad-free, it’s just as valid to criticize the developer for using open-source libraries in a closed-source project (as closed-source as a web-application can be).

    But to break it down to a simple point: I would’ve paid for the software if it cost 5€/month. That’s 60€ per year, which is reasonable for an image manipulation tool that can run most of its features locally. But 96€/year is too much. I’m not moving away from Adobe to pay for another big subscription. Now that ship has sailed for me completely, after this whole uBlock fiasco.

    You just called GIMP icky and didn’t do the bare minimum level of searching that’d tell you ImageMagick exists for batch edits.

    I know about ImageMagick and as I’ve said in another comment, a commandline tool is not suitable for cropping different areas of multiple images, I need a visual representation. GIMP might have improved, you’re right on that point. I haven’t used it in a long time and I will try to see if it’s better now (2.x was painful and anybody saying otherwise is simply delusional).

    lazy, entitled cheapskate

    Not sure why this was neccessary. You started out so eloquently and then your emotions got the best of you. I believe you can do better than the typical Reddit “discussion”.



  • You can’t just save the webpage as HTML and run it (which is what woelkchen doesn’t seem to grasp, even though I tried to explain it to him in another thread). But technically, all of the image processing code for cropping, saving, painting on the image etc. runs locally.

    You can see that easily for yourself, just disconnect your internet after opening the site and it continues to work just fine.

    That’s why all of the accusations that I’m freeloading and straining the developers’ server from batch-processing images are unfunded.





  • Or save the page if “All of that code runs in your own browser.”

    Sir, this is not how the internet works. I thought people on the Fediverse are a bit more technically-versed than the average population.

    When I disconnect my internet, I can still crop images, save them to my machine in various formats and use the tools in the left sidebar. Photopea does not use the developers’ server to do these tasks, or otherwise I wouldn’t be able to do them at all, when I go offline.

    That doesn’t mean I can just save the whole website locally and run it as is. Mostly, because the developers’ code contains references to online sources or might bug out in certain places if it’s not run on the intended domain, etc.

    If I disassembled the obfuscated code and replaced those online references, I’m pretty sure the whole thing would just work. Not being able to save a website locally and just run it as is does not disprove my point that the application does not technically need a server to run. It’s just that the developer coded it that way.

    It seems like you either cannot understand the technical aspects of what I’m saying or you believe you had a great “Got him!” moment when you said I was freeloading on the devs’ machine and now you decided to stick with it. Either way, not worth any more of time.