Engineer/Mathematician/Student. I’m not insane unless I’m in a schizoposting or distressing memes mood; I promise.

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  • Valid point, though I’m surprised that cyc was used for non-AI purposes since, in my very very limited knowledge of the project, I thought the whole thing was based around the ability to reason and infer from an encyclopedic data set.

    Regardless, I suppose the original topic of this discussion is heading towards a prescriptivist vs descriptivist debate:

    Should the term Artificial Intelligence have the more literal meaning it held when it first was discussed, like by Turing or in the sci-fi of Isaac Asimov?

    OR

    Should society’s use of the term in reference to advances in problem solving tech in general or specifically its most prevalent use in reference to any neural network or learning algorithm in general be the definition of Artificial Intelligence?

    Should we shift our definition of a term based on how it is used to match popular use regardless of its original intended meaning or should we try to keep the meaning of the phrase specific/direct/literal and fight the natural shift in language?

    Personally, I prefer the latter because I think keeping the meaning as close to literal as possible increases the clarity of the words and because the term AI is now thrown about so often these days as a buzzword for clicks or money, typically by people pushing lies about the capabilities or functionality of the systems they’re referring to as AI.

    The lumping together of models trained by scientists to solve novel problems and the models that are using the energy of a small country to plagiarize artwork also is not something I view fondly as I’ve seen people assume the two are one in the same despite the fact one has redeeming qualities and the other is mostly bullshit.

    However, it seems that many others are fine with or in support of a descriptivist definition where words have the meaning they are used for even if that meaning goes beyond their original intent or definitions.

    To each their own I suppose. These preferences are opinions so there really isn’t an objectively right or wrong answer for this debate


  • The term “artificial intelligence” is supposed to refer to a computer simulating the actions/behavior of a human.

    LLMs can mimic human communication and therefore fits the AI definition.

    Generative AI for images is a much looser fit but it still fulfills a purpose that was until recently something most or thought only humans could do, so some people think it counts as AI

    However some of the earliest AI’s in computer programs were just NPCs in video games, looong before deep learning became a widespread thing.

    Enemies in video games (typically referring to the algorithms used for their pathfinding) are AI whether they use neural networks or not.

    Deep learning neural networks are predictive mathematic models that can be tuned from data like in linear regression. This, in itself, is not AI.

    Transformers are a special structure that can be implemented in a neural network to attenuate certain inputs. (This is how ChatGPT can act like it has object permanence or any sort of memory when it doesn’t) Again, this kind of predictive model is not AI any more than using Simpson’s Rule to calculate a missing coordinate in a dataset would be AI.

    Neural networks can be used to mimic human actions, and when they do, that fits the definition. But the techniques and math behind the models is not AI.

    The only people who refer to non-AI things as AI are people who don’t know what they’re talking about, or people who are using it as a buzzword for financial gain (in the case of most corporate executives and tech-bros it is both)



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    Yes, remember it is totally immoral to pirate things from corporations who actively make everything worse for everyone.

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  • If it wasn’t clear, I’m well aware of the unlikelihood of the situation. But what’s the harm in believing such? I mean it’s not like either of them is going to come back from the dead and say: “Actually, we argued about the internal weight distribution from astronaut motion, how it would effect the natural frequency of the capsule, and if that effect would be significant enough to need accounting for, not racism.”


  • Fun fact, my grandfather was a leading engineer on the Saturn V and other aerospace projects, and according to my dad he apparently got into arguments with Von Braun. Considering the line of work and knowing some of my grandfather’s written down arguments from that time, it’s likely these arguments were more about random physics than anything else, but I like to think it was about von Braun being a Nazi piece of shit.

    I do know my grandparents were very against segregation to the chagrin of their neighbors, so it’s not entirely unlikely right?



  • The myths surrounding Prometheus are my favorite

    • He was willing to risk eternal torment just to share knowledge and/or further science, saying “fuck you” to Zeus
    • Somehow the ancient Greeks knew that your liver is one of the few organs that can regenerate… somehow…
    • His name possibly means “forethought” and he’s basically Athena and Hephaestus combined, literally the deity of technology and champion of mankind. What isn’t to love?
    • He is saved from his eternal torment by Zeus’s own half human son Heracles, so it’s kind of like humanity repaid the favor and also said “fuck you” to god

    The least favorite is Medusa because Athena literally punishes the victim of a rapist.

    Technically I think the version of the story with rape was only described in Roman myths. However, even in the Greek ones she’s somehow the only mortal gorgon and is pregnant with Poseidon. So It seems very possible the origins of that Roman story were in Greek myths we don’t have written records of.

    She was portrayed sympathetically in some of the Greek stories, which aids the idea that the version in which she is a victim predates the Roman writings. In a few of the Greek myths she is still portrayed as a maiden rather than inhuman monster, oh yeah and in those versions Perseus beheads while she’s sleeping, cause I guess killing sleeping women makes you a hero?