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  • adbenitez@lemmy.mlOPtoAndroid@lemdro.idArcaneChat: Private chats for the family
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    12 days ago

    The purpose is already said in the title: private chats for the family

    How you don’t understand the use case of chatting with the family?

    As many other chat apps out there, if you meant the “why this one and not X?” Well there are other acceptable options out there, the advantage of this one compared to WhatsApp, Telegram and co. Is that it doesn’t depend on phone numbers or any private data, getting started with the app is painless and smooth, no SMS verification no captcha solving or complex registration, just set your name and start chatting. It is decentralized and anonymous, while having a nice polished UI easy to use on the level of WhatsApp and Telegram, unlike most other alternatives out there

    One special feature is the ability to use in-chat mini-apps that are completely “p2p e2ee” between chat members without depending on any server hosting it and working offline first, among such apps: collaborative editor pads, checklists/to-do lists, shopping lists, split bills with friends, chess and other mini-games etc








    1. if they leaked something you wouldn’t know because US government law doesn’t allow them to disclose if they requested data.
    2. uses AWS servers that also the gov could ask for access to Amazon directly without even talking to Signal, being centralized and depending on AWS infra is also a weakness.
    3. needing phone numbers to register, often tied to passport and it is super easy to get your whole network when compromising 1 device
    4. all centralized services start nice, attracting users, once they have you, and money starts being a problem… meet: enshitification










  • no, there is no important metadata leaked via headers, the only obvious data the server knows is the same as on Matrix and XMPP, when you tell the server to deliver the message to a given user, the server hence knows that X sent a message to Y, but since accounts are randomly generated email addresses without any personal data tied, this is more secure than Signal where phone numbers are collected by a central server and if they wanted to they can match your IP to your phone number even if you use sealed sender to send it is obvious who you are by your IP and timing since you also connect to the server non-anonymously to receive messages