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  • Because it doesn’t just “cannibalize shitty pretenders.” It steals from quality artists as well. This is not moral virtue signaling, it’s a fact, and if you don’t like that fact, take it up with reality.

    It’s not about whether AI can make good art. It’s about how it got to that mediocre point in the first place. It’s about how nobody is offered the chance to opt out. Do you need to memorize, store, and reference every Studio Ghibli art piece to figure out how to paint or draw in that style? Probably not.

    And if you want to pull rank, I got my studio art degree decades ago. Don’t pretend that just because “you’re an artist, too” (or that you’re learning about art) that it absolves you of your complicity in supporting open theft—by billionaires, no less. And if you plan to become an artist someday, don’t be so naive to think that you’re somehow better than those “shitty pretenders” or that it won’t affect your livelihood, too.


  • Oh but it actually is, and there’s been loads of studies on exactly what combinations of chords and transitions people generally find pleasing to listen to.

    Okay, pedant. Perhaps I should have been more specific by using the word “melody.” But those chords you mentioned aren’t all the same. They might be the same notes, but they’re all played differently, with more or less expression, with varying tempos, etc. There is math and theory and even marketing studies involved, but Music is more than just notes strung together in a pattern.

    It’s a sad reality of the industry, like it or not.

    Okay, but I’m not talking about the industry. I’m talking about music in general, of which the industry is a single part. AI might sound similar to or use some of the same pattern-following as mainstream music, but that doesn’t make them equivalent, just nominally parallel.

    And focusing only upon mainstream music discounts the vast array of non-mainstream music. There are countless musicians that try new things, that don’t follow the mathematical patterns, that tell “stories.” Most of them don’t make it onto the radio or into movie soundtracks, but that doesn’t make their art less valid or varied, especially when comparing it to AI slop.



  • It means you don’t know what good music is (and I mean that kindly), and by using these services that were trained on real musicians’ art, you’re feeding yourself garbage while helping normalize art theft.

    Music is mathematical. The chords, the rhythm, the time signatures—all of that is based on math. There’s a hypothesis that there’s a (large) finite number of songs that can be created, due to this fact. If you are enjoying something produced by AI, it’s only because it is utilizing these mathematical patterns. However, there’s a big difference between AI “music” and music produced by real artists.

    The AI can follow a pattern, but it’s not creative. Music isn’t just making patterns. It’s also about telling stories through sound, and that’s not something AI can do, because it has no experiences to draw upon. It can’t comprehend what it means to be human, and it doesn’t have deep thoughts that drive it to create.

    So if you like something from AI, figure out what genre it is and look for real artists in that genre. I guarantee you’ll at least find something in the indie scene that fits what you like, and you’ll be supporting real art.




  • Not going to read most of this paper, because it reads like a freshman thesis, and it fundamentally oversells or misunderstands the existing limits on AI.

    In closing, I consider the limits to these limits as AI gradually, but relentlessly, becomes ever-more capable.

    The AI technofacists building these systems have explicitly said they’ve hit a wall. They’re having to invest in their own power plants just to run these models. They have scores of racks of GPUs, so they’re dependent upon the silicon market. AI isn’t becoming “ever more capable,” it’s merely pushing the limits of what they have left.

    And all the while, these projects are still propped up almost entirely by venture capital. They’re an answer to a problem nobody is having.

    Put another way, if the leaders of the AI companies are right in their predictions, and we do build AGI in the short- to medium-term, will these limits be able to withstand such remarkable progress?

    Again, the leaders are doing their damnedest to convince investors that this stuff will pay off one day. The reality is that they have yet to do anything close to that, and investors are going to get tired of pumping money into something that doesn’t return on that investment.

    AI is not some panacea that will magically make ultracapitalists more wealthy, and the sooner they realize that, the sooner we can all move on—like we did with the Metaverse and blockchain.








  • I understand that, but what they do with user data is governed by their Privacy Policy, which again, is unchanged. The ads they buy are the same Sponsored ones that show up on blank tabs—the ones that have been there since before they made that change.

    They made the change to the ToS, because a California law expanded the definition of “sale/sell” beyond what most people understand the word to mean. There’s enough vaguery in the wording of the law that the way Firefox works, it could land Mozilla in hot water the way the ToS were worded. It’s stupid, Mozilla did probably the worst job possible communicating why they were making the change, and the internet freaked out.

    I’m not saying you shouldn’t leave. That’s up to you. I’ve been running LibreWolf since then, because a company that has $37M in investments and pays their CEO $8M should have the means to have a decent marketing team, one that could warn them it would be stupid to abruptly cut out a section on selling user data. However, it’s simply not true that they’ve suddenly joined ranks with the likes of Google.

    Again, do what you want, but I hope people do it because they’ve been informed about the facts, not because the internet brought out the pitchforks again.