Stephen Alfred Gutknecht
Professional in social media since 1985, created / sold social media server apps at age 15. Traveled the world to study media ecology.
“Finnegans Wake is the greatest guidebook to media study ever fashioned by man.” - Marshall McLuhan, Newsweek Magazine
Linux community arrogance is to deny the device driver issues and think Apple is fine, when the reason Apple thrives is because they don’t have open hardware like Linux, BSD, Windows…
Hardware companies are rarely held account for their absent support of Linux - some campaigns have come and gone, but in the end Linux users tend to arrogantly say it’s trivial to switch and embrace dishonesty. I guess they figure Microsoft is dishonest, so they normalize it.
Then why do people use them? And quit yelling.
People are attacking you, ganging up on you, one of the favorite things on Reddit like media platforms is to be hard core conformity enforcers and silence attempts at understanding mob mentality.
DOWNVOTES DONT MEAN SHIT! SO SHUT UP ABOUT DOWNVOTES AND GET OVER IT!
“MEDIA ECOLOGY DON’T MEAN SHIT I"M JUST HERE FOR AMUSING US ALL TO DEATH WITH DUMB MEMES”
Agreed. It is urgent that we teach Neil Postman’s “media ecology”. The junk noise garbage shit Internet sucks, and enough is enough!
Way back in October 31st 1517 finally one of the clergy got so fed up reading the damn book that they said, “Sin Boldly” and said… read here, verse Romans 11:32 … romans1132.com
The book is so full of contradictions and that’s the power. It cuts both ways.
are they cigars, I can’t tell
Imagine being in Taiwan and having full access to information about China and the west and still shilling for China. Those types of people should be looking for a dominatrix, not a political philosophy…
That’s kind of the history of humanity regarding religion. To some degree when the religious prophets were alive it make sense, but hundreds of years later it’s a story book (or oral tradition) and people still strive for the authority.
We haven’t really had that many teachers like Carl Sagan who describe the history and our favoring of authority - inability to question them. It’s pretty weird, as they often aren’t attractive or good speakers, but you see people just accept almost anything they say. I mean in the USA I witnessed so many people who would trust Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones kind of blindly, and there is some mechanism at play that humanity in total seems to keep engaging.
Edit 4: The Shadow-Ban doesn’t seem to work on r/help but definitely on r/hfy.
I’ve seen this come up with a large number of links on Reddit that were even to BBC website. It comes down to the subreddit settings on spam filtering…
I think the whole process of automatic hiding of spam filtering for user accounts is a bad-faith experience. People on Reddit are infamous for not actually reading links and wanting bots to bring in text and such, and I think a lot of the anti-spam measures cultivated this for a very long time.
One thing that crowdsoucing never was very good at was spam filtering… because too many would sell out and buy upvotes/likes on Twitter/Reddit etc.
I expect it is federation outbound activity growing in memory usage, it’s all held in RAM for every post/comment/like going out to subscribed servers. !lemmyperformance@lemmy.ml is a community for the focus on scaling Lemmy.
Spent some hours tracing the code, inserting logging that I watched based on a UPVOTE being federated.
diff --git a/crates/api/src/comment/like.rs b/crates/api/src/comment/like.rs
index 6c4bdebc7..063249a7e 100644
--- a/crates/api/src/comment/like.rs
+++ b/crates/api/src/comment/like.rs
@@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ use lemmy_db_schema::{
};
use lemmy_db_views::structs::{CommentView, LocalUserView};
use lemmy_utils::error::LemmyError;
+use tracing::warn;
#[async_trait::async_trait(?Send)]
impl Perform for CreateCommentLike {
@@ -25,6 +26,7 @@ impl Perform for CreateCommentLike {
#[tracing::instrument(skip(context))]
async fn perform(&self, context: &Data<LemmyContext>) -> Result<CommentResponse, LemmyError> {
let data: &CreateCommentLike = self;
+ // Here we are with that database read on every single like for site data.
let local_site = LocalSite::read(context.pool()).await?;
let local_user_view = local_user_view_from_jwt(&data.auth, context).await?;
@@ -62,16 +64,20 @@ impl Perform for CreateCommentLike {
// Remove any likes first
let person_id = local_user_view.person.id;
+ // does database transaction, despite next one doing update condition?
CommentLike::remove(context.pool(), person_id, comment_id).await?;
// Only add the like if the score isnt 0
let do_add = like_form.score != 0 && (like_form.score == 1 || like_form.score == -1);
if do_add {
+ // this does database transaction. it await for result
CommentLike::like(context.pool(), &like_form)
.await
.map_err(|e| LemmyError::from_error_message(e, "couldnt_like_comment"))?;
}
+ warn!("zebratrace100 vote do_add {:?}", do_add);
+
build_comment_response(
context,
comment_id,
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/activities/community/announce.rs b/crates/apub/src/activities/community/announce.rs
index 116b02726..62af17a1a 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/activities/community/announce.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/activities/community/announce.rs
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ use lemmy_api_common::context::LemmyContext;
use lemmy_utils::error::LemmyError;
use serde_json::Value;
use url::Url;
+use tracing::warn;
#[async_trait::async_trait]
impl ActivityHandler for RawAnnouncableActivities {
@@ -93,6 +94,11 @@ impl AnnounceActivity {
) -> Result<(), LemmyError> {
let announce = AnnounceActivity::new(object.clone(), community, context)?;
let inboxes = community.get_follower_inboxes(context).await?;
+
+ // example, local community with remote subscribers generates this: zebratrace500 like activity inboxes [Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("lemmy.ml")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }, Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("lemmy.management")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }, Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("lemmy.austinite.online")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }, Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("lemmywinks.xyz")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }, Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("lemmy.asc6.org")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }]
+ // example, local community with no remote subscribers, generates this: zebratrace500 like activity inboxes []
+ warn!("zebratrace500 like activity inboxes {:?}", inboxes);
+
send_lemmy_activity(context, announce, community, inboxes.clone(), false).await?;
// Pleroma and Mastodon can't handle activities like Announce/Create/Page. So for
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/activities/community/mod.rs b/crates/apub/src/activities/community/mod.rs
index 010bad4f4..58ae1b732 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/activities/community/mod.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/activities/community/mod.rs
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ use lemmy_api_common::context::LemmyContext;
use lemmy_db_schema::source::person::PersonFollower;
use lemmy_utils::error::LemmyError;
use url::Url;
+use tracing::warn;
pub mod announce;
pub mod collection_add;
@@ -51,6 +52,8 @@ pub(crate) async fn send_activity_in_community(
);
}
+ warn!("zebratrace300 send_activity_in_community vote local? {:?}", community.local);
+
if community.local {
// send directly to community followers
AnnounceActivity::send(activity.clone().try_into()?, community, context).await?;
@@ -59,6 +62,14 @@ pub(crate) async fn send_activity_in_community(
inboxes.push(community.shared_inbox_or_inbox());
}
+ // example output, remote homed community: zebratrace301 send_activity_in_community vote inboxes [Url { scheme: "https", cannot_be_a_base: false, username: "", password: None, host: Some(Domain("beehaw.org")), port: None, path: "/inbox", query: None, fragment: None }]
+ // example output, local homed community with no remote followers: zebratrace301 send_activity_in_community vote inboxes []
+ // same output even when local community has a remote follower: zebratrace301 send_activity_in_community vote inboxes []
+ warn!("zebratrace301 send_activity_in_community vote inboxes {:?}", inboxes);
+
send_lemmy_activity(context, activity.clone(), actor, inboxes, false).await?;
+
+ warn!("zebratrace302 send_activity_in_community after");
+
Ok(())
}
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/mod.rs b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/mod.rs
index 8bae05577..17d89557f 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/mod.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/mod.rs
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ use lemmy_utils::error::LemmyError;
pub mod undo_vote;
pub mod vote;
+use tracing::warn;
#[async_trait::async_trait]
impl SendActivity for CreatePostLike {
@@ -76,6 +77,7 @@ impl SendActivity for CreateCommentLike {
}
}
+// this send_activity is for votes, look at the score parameter
async fn send_activity(
object_id: ObjectId<PostOrComment>,
community_id: CommunityId,
@@ -89,6 +91,10 @@ async fn send_activity(
.await?
.into();
+ // production testing reveals that this code is hit with a user doing a vote on local or federated comment.
+ // production testing reveals that when a local user votes, even in a community with zero remote subscribers, this has a hefty &actor data payload. which is just the user who did the vote... lots of overhead to vote on a comment?
+ warn!("zebratrace200 send_activity vote {:?}", &actor);
+
// score of 1 means upvote, -1 downvote, 0 undo a previous vote
if score != 0 {
let vote = Vote::new(object_id, &actor, &community, score.try_into()?, context)?;
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/undo_vote.rs b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/undo_vote.rs
index bcb8ee406..44da390f3 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/undo_vote.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/undo_vote.rs
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ use crate::{
},
PostOrComment,
};
+// Ok, federation is involved here in this class somehow
use activitypub_federation::{
config::Data,
kinds::activity::UndoType,
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/vote.rs b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/vote.rs
index 7f36ed471..ee72563ed 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/vote.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/activities/voting/vote.rs
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ use crate::{
},
PostOrComment,
};
+// Ok, federation is involved somehow here
use activitypub_federation::{
config::Data,
fetch::object_id::ObjectId,
@@ -22,6 +23,7 @@ use lemmy_api_common::context::LemmyContext;
use lemmy_db_schema::source::local_site::LocalSite;
use lemmy_utils::error::LemmyError;
use url::Url;
+use tracing::warn;
impl Vote {
pub(in crate::activities::voting) fn new(
@@ -57,6 +59,7 @@ impl ActivityHandler for Vote {
#[tracing::instrument(skip_all)]
async fn verify(&self, context: &Data<LemmyContext>) -> Result<(), LemmyError> {
let community = self.community(context).await?;
+ warn!("zebratrace000 vote verify {:?}", &self.actor);
verify_person_in_community(&self.actor, &community, context).await?;
let enable_downvotes = LocalSite::read(context.pool())
.await
@@ -70,6 +73,8 @@ impl ActivityHandler for Vote {
#[tracing::instrument(skip_all)]
async fn receive(self, context: &Data<LemmyContext>) -> Result<(), LemmyError> {
+ // based on testing with a client locally, this code path is only used for federatio incoming votes?
+ warn!("zebratrace000 vote receive {:?}", &self.id);
insert_activity(&self.id, &self, false, true, context).await?;
let actor = self.actor.dereference(context).await?;
let object = self.object.dereference(context).await?;
diff --git a/crates/apub/src/objects/community.rs b/crates/apub/src/objects/community.rs
index 17476e9f8..e437c61ad 100644
--- a/crates/apub/src/objects/community.rs
+++ b/crates/apub/src/objects/community.rs
@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ use lemmy_utils::{
};
use std::ops::Deref;
use tracing::debug;
+use tracing::warn;
use url::Url;
#[derive(Clone, Debug)]
@@ -207,6 +208,8 @@ impl ApubCommunity {
})
.collect();
+ warn!("zebratrace600 is every single federated outbound Like hitting this poiint?");
+
Ok(inboxes)
}
}
This pull serves as a code example of how to add a new setting?
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3468/commits/cf1c4dd7b598e81e366c3822f2cbb5ace194004c
Many people on social media platforms don’t realize the spam filters can be abused by attackers to prevent certain topics from being mentioned. And on front-page subreddits they do not publish comments, they look published if you are logged in, but if you check from off-axis they are unpublished. I’ve been posting some of them here and on Bluesky, but nobody cares (on Bluesky, but people have here) !CensoredByReddit@lemm.ee maybe some tech press will cover it.
Lifetime (of the person) bans on Reddit for individual subreddits and accounts are dumb. That sites been around for decades. I can only image how many people got banned there at age 16 and are completely different people at age 22. I never see people bring this kind of criticism up.