Fair.

It does make for a much more compelling allegory for society, as much like prison, it’s really hard to “exit” society.

While opting out of moderated social media is not difficult at all.

Right. Then I’ll just open up your banking history here on lemmy…

Oh wait.

And words have meaning. You can’t just point to their etymology and claim they can be used to refer to everything you consider slightly related.

The fact is, the word panopticon has very specific meaning, and specifically refers to prisons. And you didn’t even get it right. The original concept doesn’t involve constant surveillance, but the possibility of constant surveillance.

Otherwise every single room with someone wearing sunglasses in it, would be one, because you can’t tell whether that person might be looking at you at any given moment.

No. It’s a prison.

Moderated social media is not a prison. Lemmy does not make your financial history public. It does not make your whatsapp, telegram or signal messages public. It does not point a camera at your physical body for all to view at all times.

A panopticon is a prison model where surveillance is possible at all times, and nothing is private.

Moderated social media, is not a prison, and is not mutually exclusive with 100% private conversation outside any given platform, between any two individuals, or within any given group of individuals.

The reason PUBLIC forums need to be moderated is that otherwise they devolve instead of develop conversation.

In the private sphere, the equivalent action taken to mediate conversation is the ability for you to simply stop conversing with a given individual, or for a group to ostracize individuals that sabotage discourse.

Once you reach a group of large enough size, ostracizing no longer works, and you individually blocking someone does not prevent them from derailing topics for everyone else.

I think the joke is that that is literally what coding, is.

Neat!

Welcome to lemmy!

Why would you not condone it? A 17-year-old, is a “kid” to anyone about a decade older than that, but they also don’t just magically stop being “a kid” on their 18th birthday.

Most people enjoy sex, and most teenagers have an intense drive to explore it. What’s wrong with that?

Tell em how to be safe, maybe throw in some guidelines on place and time, and how to not disturb others with it, and let em.

But why would you not condone it, unless one of or both of the people involved are abusive or being taken advantage of?

That the adults related to the teenagers, feel it’s icky, has nothing to do with anything.

Most of my irl friends know my lemmy handle.

I’ve never considered that a limitation.

You only need one other person in addition to yourself, for a good discussion.

If anything, here I’m finding I actually get replies, because my comment didn’t drown among a hundred others.

In Finland, if you ask “miten menee” (how is it going) you’ll either get to hear someone’s life story, or a single word reply “menee” (it’s going) which amounts to “I don’t want to talk about it”. But the assumption is that the person asking is up to exchange a few genuine sentences.

Or, if someone is having a genuinely good day, you might get a few sentences explaining why things are looking up.

Hence, most people will go with literally neutral statements. An example, my go-to farewell is “päivänjatkoa” which is literally just “may the day continue”.

Most modern exchange services are semi-scams.

Most banks will let you use your card in other currencies, directly, and just do the exchange on their end.

And it’s usually really favorable too. If you’ve used your card abroad “like normal” for stuff like a restaurant meal, then you’ve used your banks currency exchange service.

It’ll still add up if you make a ton of small purchases, and it would be good to check what your particular bank actually charges for exchanges.

But, lots of places will pretend to offer to do the exchange for you, at sky-high rates, when really you can just charge your card directly, and get a much better rate via your bank.

Once saved a friend like 50 bucks when she bought a leather jacket on the expensive side during a cruise. The shop offered to do the exchange for her, as if that was necessary. I saw the rate and immediately told her to refuse, knowing our bank charges almost nothing for foreign currency charges. She would have fallen for it.

The guy you’re replying to, is saying the opposite.

Using an ATM usually gets you your banks exchanging rate, which depending on your bank, can be damn near free. (If the ATM tries to do the exchange for you, refuse, let your bank do it).

Same goes online. Paying with paypal, I never ever use their exchange service. Charging my card directly with the foreign currency is ALWAYS a better deal due to how good the exchange rate provided by my bank is.

Probably gonna need a second GPU tho? One for the game, one or this thing.

Nono. Not bolts.

A. Bolt.

I’d take a backup, first, and then just send it. Then, if that doesn’t work out, do it the hard and slow way.

I find it insulting you’d suggest I’d consider any part what that ass has said as even remotely reasonable.

What I said is that if you say 2+2=5 to enough people, you’ll get some who will just go “ok yeah sounds right”. They’re still wrong. Two people being deluded together doesn’t make it any less delusional.

The thing about giving everyone a megaphone, is that even when some use them to shout insane bullshit, if enough people hear it, there is inevitably a percentage who will think “yea that makes sense”.

And now, we’ve got selective megaphones. Social media algoritms that curate our feeds for us so that people shouting insane bullshit have their content fed directly to people who believe insane bullshit. Separating the people who lie and their believers, from the people who call them out on it and bring actual logic into the discussion.

Algoritms discourage thinking because thinking takes effort, and effort tires you out. Tiring you out would eventualmy make you log off and take a break, but algos are trained to maximize screentime, so no thinking it is.

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Hey now! You gotta at least set your timezone and keyboard layout, too.

What? What the hell do you even mean by “baseline”?

Again, what are you saying? You replied adversarially to someone who was making the point that society should be improved so as to not allow things like people starving to death, or becoming homeless. Are you agreeing with them or trying to shut them down?

Are you saying society barely doing anything to help people in such situations is fine, because you survived it? Because that is what it seems like, and my reply is in response to such an utterly insane take.

Society should prevent death and suffering as much as the available resources allow. Who the fuck cares where you draw the line for “good enough”?

If we can do better, then we should.