Oh my god I was too stupid to get it since I was thinking about the spaghetto as it was in the comment above yours.

Now that I get it, I’m amused. Spaghettini.

I’m gonna design one and try to make one tomorrow. Although I don’t have martini glasses.

But like… a really good vodka-marinara, then mix in some mode vodka, shake, pour, garnish with a cherry tomato and and a spaghettini (the tiny one I was referring to) and poke it through the tomato. Or tomatini?

I’m not a professional. Sorry for ruining your joke, Ms-apparently-less-high-or-more-smart-than-me.

Apologies again, totally my bad. And thank you for correcting me.

Venison and red wine.

Oh… I’m think I’m gonna make venison meatballs tomorrow. With a little red wine.

According to my linguistic understanding “spaghettini” would be more like

(small bits of spaghetti sold as “raketti spaghetti” in finland, favoured by children)

Whereas in the post, that’s a spaghetto.

Or thirsty!

Yup, so I’d be walking on corpses. If the magic just compels, they’ll still break promises.

“I’ll be there at seven” then they don’t realise they can’t make it before seven.

Död

House MD - The lies in one minute tangentially related.

Depending on the punishment, I think it would be pretty empty.

I’d be walking on corpses.

Well, we’re in a thread talking to a convicted pedophile, so I’ll refrain from judging morally

Yeah definitely I’m not gonna talk about the morality of that, I think we all entered with the assumption of understanding that.

There’s a difference between saying it and genuinely believing it, yes. Although, most people aren’t actually going to decide if they’re serious until they have to, because ethical analysis of the criminal justice system isn’t a typical interest. It’s more of a spectrum of seriousness, really

Yep. And communication on pseudonymous Internet forums is a every different context from real life.

Yes, that is a thing. Legal fictions are funny.

Agreed

It’s relevant to the topic, not out of the blue.

Hmm. I wonder if this could be an argument against life sentences, too, since they’re similarly hard to add on to.

Not exactly, because things change, and don’t the US serve convictions of like 3 consecutive life sentences so that it’d just a very surreal way of making sure they stay in jail?

Here in Finland “life” usually means was it 12 or 14 years, after which the president usually pardons you. But some of the more heinous murderers with several victims didn’t get the parole but that’s rare.

So if you had already murdered two people but it was like here and there how murdery you were instead of it being seconds degree murder or something, you definitely would have something to lose if you killed another dozen people.

But we don’t really get many mass murderers. Population is small and while there’s homicide it’s usually knives and like an angry spouse or smth.

I deliberately didn’t specify, but I’d guess the same. People talk mad shit on the internet.

Sure… I’m asking whether you think there’s a big difference in people who would say “kill the fucker” and people who would actually stand behind advocating for the death penalty for him, irl, if needed.

Honestly the dosage for achieving a lot of reduction in horniness is quite pronounced even on 50-100mg doses, which is the same dose they use for backne and other stuff. Doses under 25mg don’t really work for acne, but people honestly take this stuff voluntarily for other things, but there is a mention of side effects usually making it less suitable for men, but that’s like your age kids who got it for backne and weren’t told they’ll only want to fuck like a fifth of what they did before and they were clubbing or having girlfriends and it became an issue.

You want to have like 80% less urges so no matter what they are you’ll be able to control them.

This is the effective ingredient in androcur

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyproterone_acetate

Read that, Google people using it for acne and whatnot and see their stories. It’ll reassure you. Because you won’t find a lot of sympathetic conversation about using it for sex offenders, I fear. But you can see the do age used for SO from that image. And you can google androcur experiences or something to get an idea. And people will tell you their dose usually on those forums for backne or whatever reason they’re use it.

Honestly I’m the furthest thing from a pill-shill, but I feel like you’re giving the same sort of resistance your lawyers and doctors will have picked up.

If you can honestly reassure yourself it’s not that big of a thing — and it isn’t, it’s not complete loss of your sexuality, it’s just reigning it in, for now, (you’ll have all the time to fuck later in life when you’ve got your shit settled) — well then the doctors and the lawyers and the judges will see that in your face.

I think you think you’re gonna lose something. Something that makes you you. I’ve been on quite a lot of meds and I haven’t to managed to get rid of me. I’ve grown though. And you will too.

You might need the pills to lower the urges now, but if you were in therapy as well and would be evaluated, you might not in a couple of years. Because you still have the sort of very virile sex drive but you’re also just a year or a couple out of puberty. So it’ll settle down in the next few years. It won’t go away, but it’s less dumb horniness.

I’m not arguing against anything you said.

I merely pointed out that the death penalty given for anything less than murder usually incentivises making lesser criminals murderers than deterring from the crime they commit.

There was a text on it since like the 1600’s-1700’s, though it talked about why it’s not wise to hang burglars.

I’d put money on someone thinking that

Oh I’m sure you’re right, but are you saying that in a “people think ‘he should’ve died’ in a rhetorical way” or a “people actually think there should be the death penalty enacted for what he did”. I believe more the former and plenty the latter, but I wouldn’t say “most” for the latter.

Plenty of people who are against the death penalty, no matter the crime. Probably depends a lot on the context of the community. As in there’s more supporting it in the US for sure than in the Nordics, where it’s not been used for a while.

Etc etc.

Anyway thought it a good point to add.

Tldr if burgling/raping carries the sentence of death and you’ve already committed the crime, better make sure there are no witnesses because adding murder on top won’t matter since they can’t kill you twice.

Well yeah the dose will be different than than someone treating a mild case of backne, sure.

But the worst symptoms would perhaps be a bit of moobs and a softer skin.

Rather that for a few years than getting beat up, surely? Because even if you had to take them for a full two years in committed care with some psych meds and you’ll be a somewhat zombie with small moobs, you’ll still get out well before you’re 30 and then just exercise a little bit and moobs gone and natural test isn’t on the level of “can’t stop myself from committing sex crimes” and you’ve gained a few years of tools for phycological management from the treatment.

I know it’s not what you want, and it feels like something essential is taken from you, but honestly, you probably do have a bit too much testosterone and you might actually like the calming effect.

I don’t know about the dosage, but that’s always something you can disuss, even if doctors aren’t that openminded to advice from mental health patients (trust me I know), I’d still rather take them than prison any day.

Hell the week or two I spend in a locked ward was actually a nice vacation. And I genuinely spoke myself out after the involuntary 72 hour hold. On a Sunday (the doctor didn’t enjoy coming in) but I got out. Then I realised I was still way too messed up and went back the next day. This was locked ward for drug related psychosis and whatnot, although mine was as much from a burnout as the LSD but anyway.

I’m sure the US has psychiatric hospitals and they’re pretty much like prisons, but nowadays nicer I’d imagine. I may be a 1000% wrong on that but given how liberal the US is with medicines and how bad the prison culture is, I’d take my chances with a psychiatric hospital if at all possible.

https://sites.uab.edu/humanrights/2024/10/31/why-the-death-penalty-wont-stop-sexual-violence-against-women-in-south-asia-and-might-make-it-worse/

Other posters here are going to think you should die, or even die in a nasty way, and in most times and places that’s what would have happened

Eh, idk man. I’d hate to encourage rapists to murder. Also, you’re kinda asserting you know what everyone else thinks.

If the lawyers say there’s a chance, then try leaning on it?

As in try to actually accept the idea that — no offense — diagnosis aren’t an excuse, and you do need to take personal responsibility, and the way you can show that now is trying to understand that you are indeed sick in the sense of lacking understanding and being too horny, or whatever it may be.

If you accept the treatment instead of being very critical of it, it might change your chances.

My point here being that if it’s even an option, why not take it?Because I think “chemical castration” sounds a lot more emasculating than they actually are. They won’t change your soul, you’ll just have the ability to think more clearly when your brain isn’t hijacked by lust.

And in a few years, that’ll even out naturally. And especially if you get help as well.

Can’t you ask to go to committed care, at least for a few years of the sentence or smth, idk.

I’m not a lawyer and I don’t know what you did but justice and mental illness definitely aren’t served or treated by prison beat ups.

2 years in a mental facility could honestly do you good. Maybe try asking people about that idk.

5 years in prison… I don’t know what sort of prison but I’ve not heard good things about any American prisons. And since you already got beaten once…

I don’t know you or what you did but I believe in justice and actual rehabilitation instead of just stupid ass beatings as punishment.

Well do you want to go back to prison?

“Chemical castration” is a way more loaded phrase than “testosterone blocker.”

There’s a fucking bunch of people on Lemmy who would probably pay to get test blockers. Most likely trans girls and femboys, but trans girls want also to have estrogen. I’ve even seen a completely cis man ask about testosterone blockers because they may help with male pattern baldness. So he was sitting on the fence about test blockers because he wanted the chance to keep his hair a bit longer. The negatives he was told was a somewhat muted libido, but it doesn’t completely go away.

You’re considering the same choice as his, but he was willing to give away of his horniness just to preserve hair, and you won’t do it to keep yourself from being beaten as a nonce in prison?

Cmon man. It’s not actual castration, it won’t change who you are, but when you get horny (which won’t happen as often), the lust will be easier to control. And seeing that you’re saying you’re a sex offender pedophile, that’s probably a good thing.

Sexuality urges aren’t like a limb. You won’t notice they’re gone. It’s not like you’ll be emotionally horny but unable to perform with a limp dick. No, you won’t have the horniness in the first place. And you won’t look at things which used to make you horny (and by God keep it to yourself whatever it is) and go all depressed thinking those good looking xyz used to make me horny. You just won’t notice it as much.

Or so I assume.

Like I’m comparing how horny I was ~23-24 years ago to how horny I am now. Eyes would just be drawn to asses and butts everywhere. Now don’t get me wrong I appreciate a beautiful woman walking by, but I’m not drooling after every single female.

I never did anything criminal but I definitely did some silly stuff because of show horny I was. And if it had landed me in that sort of trouble, I’d definitely rather listen to the doctors than get shanked in prison.

You’ll be traumatised in prison. And you’ll be the absolute lowest of the low because of being a sex offender.

You’re still very young.

It’s not even likely that the treatment will cost you your fertility as long as you’re not made to take it for like 3+ years. And because you’re still growing (young people can often respond to treatment relatively rapidly because brains are still so neuroplastic).

medication used in the treatment of androgen-dependent conditions such as acne, excessive body hair growth, early puberty, and prostate cancer

That’s andracur.

Don’t use the loaded word. You’ve just a bit too much testosterone. So they’ll even it out so you can control yourself. Listen to your lawyers and your doctors and don’t fiddle with any more kids. (I’m responding because I hope this is more ephebophilia and not actual pedophilia and not a troll.)

Here’s a little lighting the mood for the end

R. Kelly is not a p*dophile (technically speaking) | Gianmarco Soresi | Stand Up Comedy

“We told them this self-driving software isn’t for self driving, you can’t blame us” is a bit like q-tips. There’s an explicit warning on the packaging to not put them in your ear canal. But like what else do people buy them for?

“Carbon-neutral” isn’t synonymous with coming from renewables.

In 2023, the electricity sold to [my energy company] customers was distributed by energy source as follows: 25% renewable energy sources, 28% fossil energy sources and peat, 47% nuclear power.

But my point was rather a rhetorical one on a global level

And more than likely most of us here are using thinking stones powered by electricity created by very large machines far away eating organisms for fuel. Not to mention heating, but not everyone lives where there’s only two seasons; winter and July. (Actually I pay extra to have a 100% renewables contract I think but idk how well those work.)

Got banned for antisemitism around the time the genocide ramped up in Gaza.

And I was just criticising Israel. Things got a bit heated for the other guy apparently, and then I got brigaded and reported. I didn’t defend Hamas or advocate violence, just criticised Israel.

As a man, men think women care about looks more than they do.

Looks are much bigger for men than for women.

Obviously a massive generalisation, but in general. Like “men are physically stronger than women”. Not all men are stronger than women but…

Anyway.

Looks really don’t matter that much. I’d say women pay more attention to personality with the same difference as there is between how much men value looks vs how women value looks.

Also, if I was being very crude, I’d say “status” is the “looks” for women. That’s what you get very beautiful women with older rich men more than you do young hot men with old riches women.

But I’d like not to be crude so disregard that last bit.

I believe, internationally, lots of places which have saunas also have pools or even cold pools. I imagine. Like high class gyms or smth.

But I’ve heard several stories of Finns being abroad and going to a sauna and being prevented from tossing water on the stones (löyly = it’s sort of the water and the heat that results from throwing it, roughly how you’d use “gas” in relation to cars, more gas can mean more petrol or pressing on the gas pedal harder, that sort of word), and the employees saying “you can’t do thaw to it’ll break the stove” because they don’t understand how saunas work.

And to do this to the best effect you need a proper löyly to the point you pour cold water from the löyly bucket on top of your head to bear it for a while longer for all the muscles to really warm up. And then for maximum shock quick jump to cold water, or sometimes just a snowbank. That’s common as well. Hurts like bitch though if you do it with the wrong kind of snow, like jumping on a bed of freezing razors. (The top of snow that was quite soft earlier had frozen and I didn’t see it in the dark and jumped into the bank and there was like a half an inch of raspy ice on top before I broke through to the softer snow. Or I just didn’t care being either so young as not to or so drunk as not to. Probably both.)

And if you’re gonna throw a strong löyly, or even löyly at all in a public sauna, it’s proper etiquette to ask for consent from everyone. Although now that I wrote that I have a feeling asking for consent in some non-Finnish public saunas may have a different meaning, as far as I’ve understood from popular media.