Young me: WAIT GAMES ARE 3D?! Holy shit 2025 must be awesome

Not young me: Um…

Which is why I advocate eating the rich, we should have started decades ago

A lot of your assumptions aren’t correct. I respect your enthusiasm though

1. Billionaires aren’t ‘enmeshed’ in the system, they are literally the free-est and least constrained people on the planet. They DICTATE the system and there is none of the ‘locked in’ feeling you are going on about in the billionaire club. The only exception may be the Muskrat’s recent nazi speedrun, I think he’s regretting that now

2. Survival bunkers aren’t to resolve an inner contradiction at all, they are literally what they say on the package: A last holdout when things go off the cliff. And this isn’t a new thing

3. I have no idea what the fuck you are going on about with AI and the ecosystem

he bunker stuff is just a slightly more grounded delusion than the AI pipe-dream

Ok it’s pretty clear you don’t actually know what you are talking about. This conversation is over

Asking for a source is being a troll? Fuck you and your entire line till the sun goes cold

Something that will make your confusion less: The rich can live quite a long time without any ecology at all, and they have paid very skilled think tanks to provide them with all the necessary plans and manpower.

For the last decade survival estates for the ultra wealthy have cropped up everywhere.

The wealthy could choose to cease their exploitation at any moment but that means less for them to hunker down with. They know about ecologic and economic collapse just as they loudly shout it it’s possible and they are exploiting even harder to get the last dregs before the mass riots.

So yes, there are people controlling it. Just that there is no motivation on heaven and earth to convince them not to destroy the world for their own luxurious survival. And they will pay our brothers and sisters to hold us down as they do it.

Oh son…

At least tell me where your undeserved arrogance comes from…

Dozens of species go extinct every single day,

Um, source?

And I’d like you to quote the place where I said this was ‘my’ situation.

What a pathetically transparent attempt to slide the conversation.

Never in our lifetimes has there been a system where the wealthy are given equal treatment, and the only brief moments that they were are sparks in history that quickly were snuffed out wherever they arose

Stop carrying water for your oppressors, they aren’t giving you a space at the table

lternatively, how do we prevent someone from becoming so wealthy they suborn society?

build a society that values something other than money. On small scales it works great, artist communes, religious communities, homesteaders. They will all tell you that money isn’t the most important thing.

Unfortunately that takes several decades of cultural shift for large scale change, and money will fight you every step of the way.

Wealth isn’t the issue, it’s the concentration and hoarding of it for power and control.

If I could thanos snap away all the sociopaths, it would solve itself in 15 years

We made an unspoken promise to the animals we domesticated: If you provide for me and my family, I will ensure your line never fades from this world

It is unethical to abandon that promise, and the extinction of a species may be the single greatest wrong mankind can commit.

If you compare the health of wild animals to domestically cared for animals, you will obviously see that domesticated animals are healthier and have greater opportunities for enrichment and happiness under human care.

Yes there are vile humans who torture and keep animals in miserable conditions, and they should pay consequences for their cruelties and greed

Don’t you dare paint every farmer with that same corporate battery farm brush.

I am not here to change your stance, I’m here to mitigate the dangerous attitudes your poorly considered stance engenders in others.

Not completely, there were holdouts in Ethiopia and Iraq but the writings survived and are only more applicable today.

Point of order: In my case the supposedly heretical sect label happened to apply but when most Christians use lowercase ‘g’ gnostic they are referring to the fact that they have certainty that God exists via inner secret knowledge.

While that does hold true for the myriad of sects labeled as ‘Gnostic’, there is a ton more conceptual dogma that is not considered true by most lowercase ‘g’ gnostics

Not that any of you heathens really care.

I have EDS and am medically angry nearly all of the time, it is in my fucking profile. It is a burden for me to mask my coms style and frankly anyone who expects it is too thin skinned to be worth talking to anyway. Using my response to justify your persistent bigotry is entirely you my friend and I can guarantee you that I am not like anyone you have ever spoken to before.

I too was born Catholic, Catechism and everything, and became an atheist at age 14, then an anti-theist at 20.

There is literally no argument you can make that I haven’t already made better

And at 30 I had an experience that profoundly changed my perspective and I abandoned my childish atheism and have been a gnostic Christian ever since.

Every one of my past arguments were laid bare for what they were: Justifications for me to continue to live a life that I desired, instead of the life my creator made me for.

I would truly enjoy a spirited debate with atheists, and I have tried to have such since before the internet had pictures, but sadly I haven’t found more than a clumsy shopkeeper’s handful of you that could maintain intellectual honesty for more than 3 posts.

No, eat the rich, bury their bones and grow a better world from them

They had their chance, now they pay

history, game theory and psychology.

A system that rewards you with a thing that can break the system results in a broken system as the most competitive will be the most unscrupulous

It doesn’t matter where you start the regulation, the ability to leverage wealth against greed for corporate capture guarantees that corruption will always favor the most unethical actors.

Oh my a comment I’ve never once heard before ever

There is no system under capitalism where money doesn’t change the rules to help money. Even in well regulated systems the advantage always goes to the wealthy, and they use it to cheat as well.

Tell me you have a high school grade understanding of macroeconomics without telling me you have a high school grade understanding of macroeconomics.

Billionaires aren’t human and they don’t think of themselves as human

Don’t carry water for your oppressors

As a progressive Christian that has spent my entire life actively helping the poor, needy, and visitors to our lands may I say a full throated ‘fuck you’ to you and everyone like you.

Every time I see someone like you paint every theist with the same brush they dip for regressive protestants it makes my efforts to counter their vile spew that much more burdensome. But you do you. I guess. At some point I’m just going to stop trying bc I’m tired of being lumped together with the ‘god hates fags’ crowd.

I hope your childish bigotry is worth losing 1/3 of your allies

This shouldn’t be a thing most people disagree with, it is a proven fact