I have a Synology DS923+ as my NAS which currently runs Plex, Immich and a couple other things.
I also have a Intel NUC (8th gen) which has Proxmox on it which mainly does PiHole and HomePage. I would like to use the NUC for PiHole, Immich, Plex, HomePage and Home Assistant.
Is Proxmox the best system to use for these applications? Would it be easier to just install Debian and Docker and run everything through containers on one OS instead of splitting them all up into LXC or VMs?
I would also like the convenience of easily updating containers through a GUI. I am not afraid of SSH and CLI but it’s nice to go to a browser address and see everything in one place. Kind of like how DSM7 is set up on Synology.
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Check out Komodo for doing docker UI work. Pretty new, but already awesome and making lots of progress
This looks like an alternative to portainer or dockge. Am I correct?
Yeah, it’s an alt to portainer
What are the benefits to komono vs portainer or dockge?
I’ve only tried Komodo, but I like that it’s open source and not trying to squeeze money for extra features
Lack of business version is a big win over portainer. I’ll have to look at the feature set. Right now I use dockge and don’t feel like im missing anything but always open to new stuff. Does it save the compose files in a volume or bind mount by default?
It has a git repository option that I use. So every compose file I add to define a service goes into the repo as a commit.
That’s pretty cool
I basically run this setup, Synology nas for storage and a nuc12 for proxmox. Things like pihole I run on both for HA. You will also have a much better experience using Plex on an Intel NUC with quick assist.
As mentioned above the helper scripts will save you a ton of time. You should definitely check them out. Proxmox allows you to easily backup and restore. So its much easier to tinker and play around without taking down the whole network.
Six one way half a dozen the other.
I personally would go down the proxmox lxc route using the Proxmox Helper Scrips the get the containers up and running.
Is Proxmox the best system to use for these applications? Would it be easier to just install Debian and Docker and run everything through containers on one OS instead of splitting them all up into LXC or VMs?
Proxmox is (nearly) a class of it’s own. Yes, you need it.
You are not limited to lxc. Just run one or more of these Debians in VM’s inside, and they can docker then as needed.
Don’t forget to use the templates in Proxmox.
I run everything in LXC containers because AFAIK using VMs mean you are limited on shared resources. If I want to use the iGPU for Plex and something else it would be locked to only work on the Plex VM. I mainly just have an unprivileged LXC and a second privileged LXC both running portainer that run most of my services.
I have a DS218Play and a Intel NUC 6th gen with Proxmox.
I use my NAS as file sharing, everything else is running in Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Plex, Immich, QBitorrent, AdGuard, Frigate, ARR suite…
How do you find frigate with the NUC? It works pretty well?
It works well, but I only have one camera and I’ve set a low resolution stream for frigate detection.
Proxmox definitely has a harder set-up i am currently doing it right now and I’ve found it a bit of a learning curve, but it is definitely the ultimately better and more fun option if you ask me ;)
Someone should correct me if I’m wrong but auto update should be as easy as scheduling the commands for apt or whatever package manager your using to update.
It’s really just personal preference, and either way is fine.
I use Proxmox because its handy to be able to use both LXC containers and full VMs. I installed it as an ISO so its built on top of Debian. There are helper scripts specific to installing Home Assistant on a VM (as well as a number of other things). And the proxmox UI comes in handy.
I have Home Assistant in a VM so I can run it on top of HAOS. Then the rest of the box is set up as an unprivileged LXC where I installed docker. I run all my *ARR apps straight on my Synology (via docker) so they have fast access to my Library volume, and everything else running on the setup I just described. Then I use Portainer to maintain my containers so I can manage both the syno and proxmox docker installs from one page.
What’s the verdict on yunohost if we are talking easy? I think so the applications being mentioned has good support on yunohost?
Run K8S on a VM on Proxmox for this stuff
Kubernetes is hard and complex but if you want something flexible and scalable it is what you want.
Hey, it’s nice to talk to you. I’ve seen you around this community and I like your comments.
I said K8S because I work with it, but if OP doesn’t need HA I guess Podman is fine too. I don’t like Docker anymore after what they pulled a year or so back
Docker compose is still a solid way to deploy software. Podman is cool but still fairly new.
Kubernetes is just a beast to work with. Unless you absolutely want I wouldn’t bother. K3s isn’t bad but it is painful to do anything.
It definitely takes more effort to get started
I would recommend Unraid. Not sure what people think of it round here as surprised no one has mentioned it. My homelab was a mix of machines for VMs, Docker and NAS, and I consolidated it last year with Unraid and couldn’t be happier. I run Plex, Immich, Wordpress, Home Assistant and a load of other containers, alongside a Windows and Ubuntu VM on a cheap eBay HP Z workstation. If on a NUC with only a single drive, V7 of Unraid will now work without an array, so a single drive basically. It’ll give you a GUI for Docker and everything.
I’d say go Debian and Docker, proxmox is nice if you’re running a lot of VMs or want HA and clustering but otherwise you don’t really need it.
If you want a GUI for docker containers there are several, Komodo or Portainer are good options.
