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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Fascism everywhere

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Fascism everywhere

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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    Ah, yes, of course, and Russia is a beautiful country, not doing imperialism right now. They are definitely not murdering innocent people on the daily

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          I would say both sides are fascist Libya is the best example for Nato fascism. They nationalised the oil to benefit the people and stop western cooperations from pillaging them and got invaded by Nato forces to go from one of the most prosperous countries in Africa to a failed state with an open air slave market. Had nothing to do with human rights. And Ukraine has a Nazi problem. Not a reason to invade of course (I hate the Russian government too) but just reality.

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            Best of luck. Burgerlanders tend not to stray outside the Five Eyes corporate media bubble while imagining themselves well-informed.

            Three women, loads of lies and the destruction of Libya

            Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power were the three principal advocates of war against Libya in 2011, setting the North African nation on a free fall ever since. Demonstrations broke out in some Libyan cities against the government of late Muammar Gaddafi in February 2011, in what became known as the “Arab Spring” that engulfed the region. However, Libya’s promised spring turned into a destructive autumn during which Gaddafi was murdered on 20 October, 2011, and Libya was left anguishing in lawlessness, courtesy of the three women.

            Samatha Power currently runs USAID, nominated for the position by Biden. Until recently Susan Rice ran the Domestic Policy Council, also picked by Biden.

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          Nato and Ukraine are fascist tho… so is Russia but ignoring the other two just make you a fascist as well.

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        There are Russian fascists. Take Navalny, for example, who the US tried to use in its regime change efforts so that it could resume its neoliberal shock therapy plundering that started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin.

        • 2007: Video: Alexei Navalny Compares Muslims to Cockroaches
        • BBC, 2021: Amnesty [International] strips Alexei Navalny of ‘prisoner of conscience’ status
        • Workers World, 2024: Who was Alexei Navalny? A violent white supremacist and fascist on U.S. payroll
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      Russia is fighting Nazis to liberate Donbas. They are not doing imperialism. They are only killing Nazis.

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        Liberate is when ecocide?

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        Reporter: REDACTED
        Reason: russian troll

        To say they’re only killing Nazis is a bit of a trolling oversimplification, and I wouldn’t essentialize Russia’s motives down to only liberating the people of the Donbas, but “russian troll” is RussiaGate BlueAnonsense.

        As to whether Russia is doing imperialism, I’ll copypasta myself:

        Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

        In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

        Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

        • Robert Parry, 2015: The Mess that Nuland Made
        • Jeffery Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace

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